Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

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Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

SteigerSt320

Posted 6/11/2011 19:56 (#1814337)
Subject: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

Northeast Louisiana

ADS is the name on the pipe, it has ribs around them. Local supplier said they will float out the ground if not installed right. Supplier said to drill holes in them to allow water into rings. I have never used any of this but was wondering if they are worth the trouble. A neighbor had one burned up in a grass fire. I can buy some 24 in diameter used pipe in like new condition never been installed in ground for $7 a foot. A very good price here. John..neAR

Posted 6/11/2011 20:03 (#1814346 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: RE: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

Caraway, AR

Caraway, AR

Beware of fire or physical damage. other than that, they will probably last longer than steel.

I don't think the AHTD here will OK them for road ROW.

John

Coastal

Posted 6/11/2011 20:21 (#1814365 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

Just about every field culvert we have now is the black poly pipe. And yes your supplier is right as they can float up with installing them, but I have never had any trouble after a bucket or two of fill dirt is on top. cornholio

Posted 6/11/2011 20:27 (#1814371 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

They're about all we use. Only problems we've had is from burning wheat fields. The ribs seem to help keep them from washing out as easily as a slick steel pipe. The dirt works into the grooves and it's harder for a channel to get started washing under or beside it, at least that's how it seems. Where can you get the 24" pipe for $7 a foot? That's scrap iron price. I'd sure like some of that for some long pivot bridges.

Edited by cornholio 6/11/2011 20:27

commissioner

Posted 6/11/2011 20:44 (#1814391 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: RE: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

southern Illinois

southern Illinois

We tried them and gave up. The small ones would crush when a truck runs off the ends and trucks always run of the ends. The bigger ones float up if you dont concrete the ends and if you do that, with the price of concrete, you can buy a good pipe. They might work for some farm applications but not good enough for us to use on the roads.
Last but not least you need at least a foot of cover and we usually don't have that on driveways.

Edited by commissioner 6/11/2011 20:46

emtbd1979

Posted 6/11/2011 21:59 (#1814495 - in reply to #1814391)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

west central illinois

west central illinois

That's all we use on the road district we are in charge of. We have been using them for the past 8 years and we haven't replaced or fixed one yet. You just have to make sure you get plenty of cover on them and make sure the pipe is plenty wide enough for the trucks and equipment that is using it. SteigerSt320

Posted 6/11/2011 22:04 (#1814502 - in reply to #1814371)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

Northeast Louisiana

Cornholio, the plastic black pipes are at Crowville, La., Raley Bros.. You prolly know them, Garry Ward worked for them for years, but he is with Helena now. The pipes are used in corn pods for air vents. Some has holes and some dont. Avg length is 15 to 18 ft. They can be clamped to make longer. They have not advertised to public on pipes yet but you prolly can get them. Let me know and I will find out for ya. Chad H

Posted 6/11/2011 22:09 (#1814508 - in reply to #1814495)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

NE SD

You guys must be talking about double wall tile? We and a township are going to need to install a lot of culverts over the next year and I was wondering about using it for field approaches to save cost. If they ever get damaged then they can be replaced, but $500-1000 culverts add up fast.

Big Ben

Posted 6/11/2011 22:17 (#1814518 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: RE: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA

Funny you should mention fire damage... We used to have a 24" one feeding an irrigation pond. It was replaced with steel.



Skipper

Posted 6/11/2011 23:00 (#1814586 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

What we did a few years back, The poly was about 1/2 price the galvanized so did a little figuring and at that time poly with a light covering of concrete was about the same price as the steel. Figured that was a longer / better fix than the steel so thats what we did. Farmstead drive with heavy trucks, no problems to date and I don't really expect any. This was like 12 or 14" stuff. RickB

Posted 6/12/2011 06:23 (#1814765 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: RE: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

Lincoln County. NC

Lincoln County. NC

Plastic is all that is used by municipalities and developers in this neck of the woods, steel just doesn't last long enough.
It maintains its shape if installed properly (deep enough) and wide enough so the ends aren't driven over.
Fire, of course, is not a major concern in this area.
I can't imagine why it would 'float' any more than steel, quality plastic pipe weighs about as much per foot. ttop

Posted 6/12/2011 09:52 (#1814987 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

scky

We used a lot of the ADS while I was in the Park Service. Make approaches wide enough, trucks running off the end will squash the ends, but they will do the same for steel pipe, at least where I live. I have used the plastic to slip-line steel and it works really well, if you don't reduce the water flow too much. Install them with a good bed around them and compact the area around the pipe so water can't get under the pipe, for heavy loads they need extra surface protection, after they are firmed up they will carry a heavy load. Ben D, N CA

Posted 6/12/2011 10:30 (#1815051 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: RE: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot

Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot

I've put a number of crossings in, as well as lined some canals with it. Our irrigation district has put in miles over the last few years, from 24-60". I think it works fine. In some applications we will just throw enough dirt over the joints to hold them, never had anything float. Often we end up with less fill than desired, I've got one crossing where you can see the top of the pipe. Loaded trucks have never squished it... yet.

Like was mentioned above, the only concern I have is fire damage. I've had some 36" stuff on fire from burning a field, and it does burn easily and hard to put out. So if you burn fields just back burn around the pipe first and have a sprayer handy. Its not a big deal, just have to be a little careful. For the price it sure is cheaper than steel, and tougher in my opinion. Not to mention easier to install, and won't ever rust out. soybean99

Posted 6/12/2011 21:01 (#1815982 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

fayette county, ohio

fayette county, ohio

after a big flood this spring, I found this in my creek and pulled it out

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soybean99

Posted 6/12/2011 21:07 (#1815988 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

fayette county, ohio

fayette county, ohio

after a big flood this spring, I found this in my creek and pulled it out hvy 1ton

Posted 6/14/2011 01:33 (#1817836 - in reply to #1814337)
Subject: Re: Does anyone use the black poly culverts?

NE KS

That's a nice find. I'll i ever get is kiddie pools and trampolines.